tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post1961125241583129856..comments2024-03-27T05:41:17.928+01:00Comments on CRPG Revisiting old classics: Why I play old CRPGsSaintushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-61859461387140319202023-04-29T19:19:42.594+02:002023-04-29T19:19:42.594+02:00Totally agree
am8.plTotally agree <br /><br />am8.pltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02617889946414562606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-1871699908517190982019-02-14T11:02:59.709+01:002019-02-14T11:02:59.709+01:00Really, anyone can make an rpg blog and score any ...Really, anyone can make an rpg blog and score any way they like. The addict blog mentioned is full of unusual opinions and so other people like to create blogs to set the record straight and give another view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-51697748872852789802017-04-03T13:35:19.499+02:002017-04-03T13:35:19.499+02:00The only thing in common with CRPGAddicts blog is ...The only thing in common with CRPGAddicts blog is the passion for old CRPGS. Nothing is copied.Saintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-15594246973899283232017-04-03T00:11:52.487+02:002017-04-03T00:11:52.487+02:00I understand nobody has a corner on the playing ol...I understand nobody has a corner on the playing old rpg's market, but don't you think it's a little shady to literally copy everything from CRPG Addict right down to the scoring system? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17237818191486592126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-56062677568643263252013-05-05T18:52:13.940+02:002013-05-05T18:52:13.940+02:00You'll want to lapidate me...
I downloaded the...You'll want to lapidate me...<br />I downloaded the "Eschalon Book 1" demo and it's all I can't bear in a CRPG.<br />I started 4 times with 4 different characters, I didn't manage to bring any of them to level 2. Doing all I can to avoid as much fighting as I can, I always end up surrounded by two enemies or shot by a range-attacking enemy.<br />Note that I can't always retaliate with my bow, since the "enemy is obscured"... obstacles aren't obstacles to everyone...<br />I started a characther with the "pick lock" skill and din't get any lockpick in my starting equipment.<br />If the game doesn't want non-rogues to pick locks, it shouldn't allow non-rogues to select this skill. Same thing with spell-casting skills.<br />It seems the only really playable character at the beginning of the game is a fighter who doesn't know anything else than slashing his way down... but is still unable to break open a door or a chest with an axe or a hammer... very limited indeed.<br />That's not what makes a great and NON-LINEAR game...<br /><br />To my mind, the Avernum series is far better than Eschalon.<br />You can really play any character(s) you want as soon as the game begins and you can take more than two steps at the beginning without being butchered...<br />And you CAN use every skill at the start.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-33711841962573705092013-05-04T14:17:06.438+02:002013-05-04T14:17:06.438+02:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-37839513803333646752013-04-26T02:41:06.128+02:002013-04-26T02:41:06.128+02:00Have a look to these games.
The Avernum series its...Have a look to these games.<br />The Avernum series itself takes a real long time and feature lots of free exploration.<br /><br />http://www.spidweb.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-87080068868808135802013-04-26T02:37:28.229+02:002013-04-26T02:37:28.229+02:00Have a look at these people : I love the Avernum s...Have a look at these people : I love the Avernum series.<br /><br />http://www.spidweb.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-2615774768568798752013-04-26T02:30:34.427+02:002013-04-26T02:30:34.427+02:00the games a PLAYER will buy, not a played
sorry fo...the games a PLAYER will buy, not a played<br />sorry for the typosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-2167948036799680972013-04-26T02:29:18.027+02:002013-04-26T02:29:18.027+02:00You forgot to mention that the more a game will ta...You forgot to mention that the more a game will take to finish, the less the number of games a played will buy.<br /><br />It's like your good old hoven that used to be build to last lives long.<br />Nowadays, they're made to last no more than several years. It keeps the market feed with consumer need...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-40185512385796692982013-04-26T02:25:54.013+02:002013-04-26T02:25:54.013+02:00I think tabletop roleplaying is far more about tal...I think tabletop roleplaying is far more about talks between players and between a player and a game master than about a "system engine".<br /><br />I used to play a roleplaying games (a "COPS" scenario) for a full afternoon (from 14:00 to 22:00) without any single die roll, and I enjoyed every single minute of it.<br /><br />A good D&D game is a good story with memorable NPCs, a well-written intrigue and a great final fight against a big ugly evil boss monster.<br />It's not about killing and looting random monsters, building up levels and optimizing ability scores and equipment.<br /><br />That said, I like the occasional dungeon-crawling, resolving puzzles and finding that great +2 giant-slayer sword in that trapped chest guarded by some nasty gargoyles.<br />But without a good story, it's nothing more than "PMT", as we say in French (PMT for Porte-monstre-trésor, that means "Door then Monster then Treasure then all again)<br /><br />I'm still on the Mass Effect trilogy, and since it can be seen as a "interactive movie" and "First person shooter" mix rather than a real RPG, I really love the way your choices really affect the surrounding universe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-83981097448319570312013-04-26T02:11:54.350+02:002013-04-26T02:11:54.350+02:00I don't agree with the "people want a cin...I don't agree with the "people want a cinematic experience" statement.<br />Have today's people only the choice between "dice rolls, 2D graphics, hard word" and "cinematic game" ?<br />Not at all.<br />The whole game market si feeded by the same executives apllying the same market rules taught in the same TRADE schools.<br /><br />Give people a choice, they will choose. Often not what is best for the market executives.<br />Give people illusions of choice, they will take whatever is given to them. Often not what is to their best taste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-7598924190386949612012-11-22T00:48:02.879+01:002012-11-22T00:48:02.879+01:00That's probably the reason why its been ages s...That's probably the reason why its been ages since I finished an old school CRPG, its possible I spend too much time drawing the maps.<br /><br />Oh well, at least I'm having fun while doing itThat Random Game Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14795109665611991164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-52764400553559491142012-11-20T22:10:15.455+01:002012-11-20T22:10:15.455+01:00Thanks for visiting my blog!
Hmm...I did like to d...Thanks for visiting my blog!<br />Hmm...I did like to draw my own maps once in a time of the reasons you mention. But with todays limited playing time,I just don´t have the time anymore so I prefer old CRPGs with automap when they are available. Saintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-89464221130101871882012-11-20T18:36:54.289+01:002012-11-20T18:36:54.289+01:00One thing I feel you forgot: Maps, I love drawing ...One thing I feel you forgot: Maps, I love drawing my own maps when playing old RPGs, admittedly, I also do this for JRPGs like the Sega Master System's Phantasy star.<br /><br />But to me, there's nothing quite like reaching the end of a complicated maze-like dungeon thanks to a map you drew yourselfThat Random Game Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14795109665611991164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-1805864639168103162012-03-24T06:05:42.586+01:002012-03-24T06:05:42.586+01:00Thanks for all input on this issue. I think a comb...Thanks for all input on this issue. I think a combination of all that has been said is very close to the truth.<br /><br />In the CRPG golden era there was a lot of RPGs released every year compared to today. Not all of them was good of course but you had more to choose from.Saintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-27807719611344468572012-03-24T05:57:49.367+01:002012-03-24T05:57:49.367+01:00I think this might be the german lösung that has b...I think this might be the german lösung that has been translated to english.<br /><br />http://www.ollivision.de/kl/c/crystald.htmSaintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-74243006696541665232012-03-23T13:19:47.331+01:002012-03-23T13:19:47.331+01:00Not that I'm necessarily trying to advertise m...Not that I'm necessarily trying to advertise my own blog (though it never hurts), but I have included a link to yours on my page if you want to check it out:<br /><br />http://dmrealm.blogspot.com/<br /><br />I think people who are interested in mine would be equally interested in yours.The Enraged Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506779868033710788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-60595469660818167462012-03-23T11:42:28.839+01:002012-03-23T11:42:28.839+01:00Excuse me for a bit off-topic, but where did you f...Excuse me for a bit off-topic, but where did you find german walkthough for Crystal dragon?<br /><br />I cant find it, or its English translation. Link you given http://rayearlesgamehelp.info/Cfiles/Crystal_Dragon.html#CRYSDAWT dont work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-15178060524418344942012-03-23T01:16:11.422+01:002012-03-23T01:16:11.422+01:00There's a very important reason why older CRPG...There's a very important reason why older CRPGs are better than newer ones. It's a reason that is often overlooked.<br /><br />It's because older CRPGs were built to emulate tabletop roleplaying games. Emphasis was on the system, the combat engines and in recapturing the feel of actually playing those kinds of games.<br /><br />That's exactly why the first official AD&D game was a big deal in 1988. Our first chance to replicate the AD&D experience at the computer (something that "Pool of Radiance" and the other Gold-Box games did fantastically in that era...and anyone who doesn't like those games just doesn't "get" it).<br /><br />In reality, most of those games were just rip-offs of Dungeons & Dragons anyway. The people writing them were almost always players who wanted to bring the experience to the computer.<br /><br />But, now...that's not the case. Nobody cares what "system" a CRPG is using (when was the last time that anyone made a big deal about it? Fallout 2?) It's what's lacking.<br /><br />You can tell me if you think I'm right.The Enraged Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506779868033710788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-33237587716434186642012-03-21T22:28:48.956+01:002012-03-21T22:28:48.956+01:00Regarding consoles I think the real decline came w...Regarding consoles I think the real decline came with the PS2 and X-Box.<br />Before that not "everybody" played video games, but of those that did the youngest kids played simple (but not easy) games like platform games on Nintendo and Sega, while older kids and adults played on computers.<br />But with the introduction of the PS2 and X-Box suddenly "everybody" owned a console and the games needed to be dumbed down to cater to the lowest common denominator. A prime excample of this is Morrowind and Oblivon. Many people complained about Caius Cosades being too hard to find in Morrowind, despite detailed written instructions. So in Oblivion they introduced quest compasses so that there never should be any doubt where you were supposed to go next.<br /><br />The Golden Age of CRPGs may have been 1988-1992, but the Golden Age of PC Gaming was 10 years later and ended with the introduction of the X-box in 2002.PetrusOctavianusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-47035059696554268062012-03-21T22:17:43.325+01:002012-03-21T22:17:43.325+01:00Personally my main reason for playing older games ...Personally my main reason for playing older games is DRM. It is no longer possible to buy a new game in a store and then install it as many times as you want, and play it any time or anywhere you want.<br />Instead of owning a copy of the game you now buy a licence to play it, and need third party programs like STEAM to install, and even play it.<br />Thankfully most new games are not very interesting. Newer BioWare games sound like a mix of dating sims and interactive movies.<br />I would definitely buy Skyrim if it was not a Steamworks game, though.PetrusOctavianusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-69001722795683363502012-03-21T20:28:52.575+01:002012-03-21T20:28:52.575+01:00Personally I love to read the manual, if it is wel...Personally I love to read the manual, if it is well written and tries to explains all the game mechanics, tables with skills, experience, skill levels, weapons and its damages etc That is part of the fun and a strong reason to actually pay for the game.<br /><br />I also like to invest time in building the perfect party composition and re-roll statistics. Since I came from C-64 and the Amiga I did never have to fiddle around with system files as with the PC before Win 95 was released.<br /><br />Prices of games - for the PC at least - are the same todays as 15 years ago which means they are actually cheaper today. <br /><br />The modern RPG market is small as it is. But it is not because of the lack of interest I think. Just look at the records of sold games for Skyrim, Oblivion and the Witcher series. They are all very good products. The problem is that we have to settle for one or max two good RPGs each year in average nowadays.<br /><br />If you are into strategy games the Matrix Games is very good at keeping that market alive.Saintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-56060797056683841082012-03-21T20:17:57.201+01:002012-03-21T20:17:57.201+01:00If you read this, then please help me out in how t...If you read this, then please help me out in how to defeat the sorceress Elitia if you ever reach that part.Saintushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241513709473747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3986955720568668168.post-59637701849926680882012-03-21T16:54:37.617+01:002012-03-21T16:54:37.617+01:00It’s a fact of life that games will move on with t...It’s a fact of life that games will move on with the times. When we started playing RPGs we had to tinker around with system files to get the games running. We had to spend a good deal of time reading through manuals. We had to get out the graph paper to draw maps. We had to invest time creating the best party.<br /><br />Nowadays gaming has become mainstream and most people aren’t interested in dice rolls, 2D graphics or hard work. They want a cinematic experience. They want an epic feel. They want it now. Who can blame them when games cost £50? Sadly I think old school RPGs have gone the way of the graphic adventure and are a very, very niche market which big software houses just can’t afford to support.<br /><br />I play old CRPGs because I don’t mind putting in the graft to get the most out of a game. I don’t mind simple graphics or sound. I don’t need cut scenes and I don’t like linearity. Give me Ultima VII over Skyrim any day. I also think it’s a generational thing – what you don’t know you don’t miss.<br /><br />Having said all that I enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins so what do I know?Wingnuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07859158206963441813noreply@blogger.com